tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post4153586332559695113..comments2023-10-31T06:31:15.796-04:00Comments on Shame in the Horse Show Ring: Reichert Celebration...er Free For AllUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger257125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-54542383460462657912013-01-24T09:57:31.874-05:002013-01-24T09:57:31.874-05:00Talk about abusive... The Steve Lackey I know from...Talk about abusive... The Steve Lackey I know from Greensboro is the most abusive trainer I've ever had the displeasure of knowing! I worked at his barn for a while and I saw his "training methods" first-hand. He would work a young horse until it was exhausted then tie the horse out in the sun with it's neck stretched out as far as it would go and leave it there for hours on end! He would "control" his stallion by beating the crap out of it with a bat! There was a halter mare that would bolt out of the stall when you tried to take her out. She had been abused as a foal by a complete idiot who thought it was a good idea to hit the foal with the stall door to make her come out. Steve would not address the issue and the mare was a danger to herself and others. In one day of working with the mare, I had her calmly walking in and out of the stall with no problems. For my efforts, I was fired! Having a horse that is scared to death all the time apparently makes it a great halter prospect! Who'd have thunk? Howaboutlifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06338870611623620295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-42945271897522419682011-05-27T16:26:10.837-04:002011-05-27T16:26:10.837-04:00I know this is late but i stumbled upon and couldn...I know this is late but i stumbled upon and couldnt help myself. Not all horses are beat into becoming outstanding WP horses, the greatest ones are born with raw talent. My horse has over 100 AQHA WP points and my trainer and I have never drugged, beat, or abused him in order to achieve those points. If you think the same things dont happen in the arab show pen then you are seriously naive...it happens in every industry and breed. When you watch a horse in the the pasture the way it moves under saddle is different. <br /><br />I am not saying that abuse is good,it is terribly wrong. But not everyone does it. And Ty Hornick and all the others involved could have handled it better. But you could have also handled it better. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you lashing out on the entire Western Pleasure industry is not right, or fair. It actually is just as bad as the fist fight. Is this the way you want to represent yourself? <br /><br />oh, and remember, judges are humans too.zomermhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11609718060291545496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-51686367347713637152010-11-20T21:27:29.830-05:002010-11-20T21:27:29.830-05:00Let's see, you do not condone horse abuse...bu...Let's see, you do not condone horse abuse...but you say that Mr Horny Hoofs should have his ass beat until his penis shrivels up???<br /><br />Seriously???<br /><br />How is that not condoning horse abuse???<br /><br />Forget what happened at the show. Assclowns are prevalent in all parts of society. But...the very one who is supposed to be the advocate is saying that a horse should have his ass beat....<br /><br />I am thoroughly confused. And disgusted.Mike Riterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10337809994331376616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-23066901512684481122010-08-10T10:41:01.889-04:002010-08-10T10:41:01.889-04:00Shit happens! There was nothing the studs rider co...Shit happens! There was nothing the studs rider could have done to stopped it. As for acting like nothing happened, i would have done the same thing. Do you know how much money the trainers are paid to exhibit a horse in a class? Do you know how much money they can win in that class? Classes at the Reichert are a big deal, and can greatly improve the marketability of a horse. It DOES take time, training, and work to produce a quality western pleasure horse. If not MORE time than any other discipline. Every horse is different, some take longer than others. Maybe they can turn out a pleasure horse "quickly" as you say, but its not done without hard work. Getting a big name in western pleasure IS NOT EASY. Its the same with any industry. You have to work your butt off and do well at many big shows, perhaps for a few years even. You dont get it from winning one class. You don't think these trainers spend hours upon hours with these horses? They do. Its no different than any other horse industry. What does "sparkly things" have to do with any of this? I will agree that some horses look artificial, but the ones winning or placing high in the big classes are not artificial. Judges are trained. They know whats right and whats not. EVERY horse industry keeps the vets busy. Horses work hard, and stuff happens that cant be controled. Just like humans. A professional athlete can get injured easily. And at this level, trainers take special care of there horses. They do everything they can to prevent the horse from getting hurt. Sportsmanship is important, but you dont go in a show ring telling everyone good luck and i hope you do great. No. You're there to WIN. They are your competition. Fist fights are a little much, but competetors are going to let someone know if they screwed up their ride.<br />And how do you know all of these details? Were you there? As far as the judges seeing it happen, maybe they didnt! Theres a lot to look at with horses in the pen. They could have been watching, writing down notes, or many other things. Its very possible they didnt see it. And i garuntee you that stud had manners. I dont think they would enter him in a class that COSTS MONEY to get into, with such a big purse and so many horses if he wasnt well behaved. The fact is that it could happen anywhere to anyone in that kind of situation. We cant control a horses instincts. If the judges didnt see it, they cant stop the class. The rider could just be lying to them for all they know! If one judge had seen it, then it would be different. But they cant just ride to the middle and address a ring steward in the middle of the class. And all in all, i find this "blog" innacurate and hyppocritical. At the end you state that you would have found the rider back at the stalls and given him what he deserved. Whats the difference in yous so called "abusing horses" and beating the crap out of a person for something THEY COULDNT HELP. And you forgot where you were going with this because there is no point. You're very wrong in what you've said, and i understand that its your own opinion. But try to get the facts straight and understand the industry before you go writing again.cowgirluphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07068583061155365365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-33081552783438818322009-09-17T08:18:28.177-04:002009-09-17T08:18:28.177-04:00punkswthrt wrote:
man, you have a lot of nerve put...punkswthrt wrote:<br /><i>man, you have a lot of nerve putting this on the internet. you do realize that if some of my friends that went to the richert and witnessed it could find you, they'd beat the shit out of you, right? as would many other people including me.</i><br />- - - - - - - -<br /><br />So, it's okay to make terrorist threats to someone as long as you delete them, right?<br /><br />See, some folks have these comments sent to their email inboxes. Like me. They don't get deleted out of our inboxes when the moron who writes them in haste removes them from the blog entry themselves.<br /><br />It wouldn't be hard for TJM to take your screen name and track you down via Blogger, no matter if you have an anonymous profile, and press charges against you.<br /><br />Some people. *headdesk*SFTShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14155830531219245152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-26488040949803641272009-09-17T02:32:14.913-04:002009-09-17T02:32:14.913-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09263527085728530899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-2394904678358097412009-09-02T21:26:06.084-04:002009-09-02T21:26:06.084-04:00Ashy,
If you ride as well as you write, and/or a...Ashy, <br /><br />If you ride as well as you write, and/or as well as you think, then you are a piss-poor rider.<br /><br />I could say more, but Kat and Vector have said enough.<br /><br />Your comparison of WP horses to Saddlebreds is what's called "ad hominem" logic, AKA a "straw man" argument. Google it, if you're not too lazy.<br /><br />Cynically,<br />Ruthiehorsndogluvrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02104175548913010326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-27846131729950454752009-09-01T09:56:09.523-04:002009-09-01T09:56:09.523-04:00Yay Katphoti!!
: )Yay Katphoti!!<br /><br /> : )cattypexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589672286463092432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-43676838170337960022009-08-31T23:48:50.574-04:002009-08-31T23:48:50.574-04:00ashy,
How old are you? Probably about 15? That ...ashy,<br /><br />How old are you? Probably about 15? That must make you the expert on everything, doesn't it?<br /><br />So you have ridden all disciplines, huh? Okay, so if you've done it all, what is the difference between a flat walk and a running walk in a Tennessee Walking Horse and what are the prevailing physical characterisitics of those two gaits? If you can answer that question correctly, or answer it at all, then I MIGHT take you seriously.<br /><br />Equitating is not a word in the English language, and neither is "dumbass". Your bad grammar also just brings another testament to what a know-it-all child you obviously are. So you type too fast and have a lot of typos? Learn how to use spellcheck. I have very little respect or use for anyone who can't write.<br /><br />Honey, here's a fact: placing blame on other breeds for their faults does not make what the WP riders do to their horses okay. Here's another fact: you do not have good sportsmanship if you are writing the kind of posts you are writing here. A know-it-all attitude and calling people names will reflect on what you do in the show ring.<br /><br />I won't comment on the rest of your posts because it's the same stuff I hear from every girl your age who knows it all. You will learn, honey, and unfortunately you'll learn the hard way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-72730640704988326802009-08-31T23:39:37.884-04:002009-08-31T23:39:37.884-04:00WELL SAID, Vectormom. I was shocked when I first r...WELL SAID, Vectormom. I was shocked when I first read the rulebooks for APHA WP and saw what was in the ring. I had to do some judging at a small all breed fun show, and I was shocked at how many horses DIDN'T follow the rules, yet I got lectured after the show by mothers with "champion bred" horses for their kids. Yeah, if they're such champions, then why are you showing at BY fun shows? I would just tell them please read the rulebook--it's what I went by.<br /><br />Judges are to blame in a lot of disciplines, including the TWH sore horse industry. Stop rewarding crap and start rewarding correctness!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-80561433238227094062009-08-31T23:38:56.866-04:002009-08-31T23:38:56.866-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Andreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17021318391230330387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-63269560482965050312009-08-31T21:36:03.046-04:002009-08-31T21:36:03.046-04:00Dear Princess Ashy,
Grand Pre??? Is that the lat...Dear Princess Ashy,<br /><br />Grand Pre??? Is that the latest smartphone from Palm?<br /><br />Actually, either you are full of bs or your trainer is, because I've yet to meet a reputable dressage trainer encourage any of the crap in the wp world.<br /><br />Key word: reputable.<br /><br />You are also pretty blind if you claim to never see horses' heads tied up. I've seen it in the barns at Congress, the podunk county fair, and it is standard practice for the trainers around here, which include some biggish names.<br /><br />Anyway, if you have actually ever trained with a GOOD USDF trainer and left to do WP, then you're a sorry excuse for a horseman. What a lot of trainers do to quarter horses is just as bad as what happens to Saddlebreds, and if you think that nobody blocks tails, then you are an idiot.cattypexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589672286463092432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-29606205981752550212009-08-31T18:06:03.405-04:002009-08-31T18:06:03.405-04:00Cattypex-
Haha sorry english has always been my w...Cattypex- <br />Haha sorry english has always been my worst subject. And i type to fast. But anyways getting the horses hip in means getting the horse under themselves. And your right i did grow up around AQHA but i also grew up around USDF. I have been taught to ride everyseat except for side saddle and eventing. And if you think what we do to our horses is bad you should see what saddlebreds have done to them to get there tails set. Its horrible. And the bits the use on them like for example a BICYCLE CHAIN BIT. THats just inhumane. O and i guess you didnt know that blocking tails is illeagal on AQHA. Along with drugging horses. And in my whole life i have only seen once horse have scars from spur training and the only had them cuz he was crazy and the trainer didnt know what he was doing. and half the time the only reason a horse gets there head tied uo in a stall is cuz it seattles them down or else the trainer doesnt want the horse to lay down cuz it has tack on. and people rarely put draw reins on a curb bit they know better then that. and i could eaisly tell you horses that are worth while at congress and wrolds for example: do you have a minute, vital signs are good, natural iron, natural traveler, natural kat, i can keep going but i dont wish to. <br /><br />Kaphoti- <br />ONce agian i type to fast thats why i have the typos. And euitating is how well you ride your horses dumbass. And we want our horses going slow because its more pleaureable. If you have ever ridden a WP AQHA horses you would see how smooth they are. And yes i know a stock horse can do dressage and pretty much anything since i do dressage with my horse. And if you are saying i have poor training riding and horsemanship skills then you would be wrong. I have been taught to train a horse properly, without hurting iy. Im also a very good rider and i have good sportsmanship, and i can ride any seat i want since i have been taught to by grand pre dressage trainers and judges, class A jump trainers and judges, 10 time Saddlebred world winning trainer, top of the line WP trainers. etc.ashy517https://www.blogger.com/profile/05254615704838008887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-13837472730761001392009-08-31T16:13:35.974-04:002009-08-31T16:13:35.974-04:00I read Ashy's comment & my soapbox walked ...I read Ashy's comment & my soapbox walked over & pulled me on. It is not the author of this blog who needs to become educated about WP. Read the comments & you'll pick up a few things. <br />As far as your 17hh horse showing WP, I don't understand why you think that is such an extrordinary feat. Height has nothing to do with WP. Hell a mini can be trained to do it & so could the Budweiser Cldyes. What you have missed by not reading the comments is that people here may make some fairly broad industry sweeping statements (like all Arabs in WP stink - that is not a direct quote or directed at anyone, just an example),yet I understand them to be against the artificial movements that are shown in WP & some harsh tactics to achieve that movement. Also their dislike for a large MONEY BAGS show promoting the use of 2yo horses for WP $$.The very statement that the stallions' rider could not do anything is the one that really prompted me to get in here & reply. Read the comments. There are many well educated reviews here. Considering he missed the idea of even training a 2 year old colt for a money bags....uh I mean top level western pleasure show; considering he missed all the body language of the horses; considering he stands to make untold amounts of money from the campaigning of this soon to be standing at studly do wrong horse and already had up to the point of that class; considering he is raking in the money just for being there (by his clients), well, I'm sorry but I have to say there was many things he could have done. Prior to this show, in the ring, exiting the ring, and public statements that he should be making since. Read the comments & learn a little yourself. There are things you may not have realized that he very well could have, should have done. And as much as I would like to get off my soapbox, I just have to say, horsemanship is a pattern class judged on the RIDER. It is not judged on the rider to be a western pleasure rider and it has nothing to do with western pleasure. There are NO PATTERN classes in WESTERN PLEASURE!!! And before anyone defends the western pleasure horses shown at the top levels, please read the rulebooks. Going slow while keeping their heads down is no where in the rulebook!! I don't care if BNT is riding the greatest horse of the universe and has won king of all kings of the sport of the kings horses futurity!!!! The rule is the standard by which judge's are SUPPOSED to be held to whilst judging these insanely moving horses (horse of today). The rule is free flowing stride of REASONABLE LENGTH in keeping with the conformation of the horse. ...cover a REASONABLE AMOUNT OF GROUND with little effort...BALANCED, FLOWING MOTION, while exhibiting CORRECT gaits of proper CADENCE....QUALITY & CONSISTENCY are of major importance...The horse should carry it's head and neck in a RELAXED, NATURAL position with his poll level or slightly above the withers....this isn't word for word. Please, read your rulebook. I think I'm the only western pleasure rider I've ever heard say to their horse....pick up your head and move forward!!!! I love my mare to the max, but sometimes that ass draggin' stinker can really get on my nerves. <br />(smashing my soapbox....slinking off to get blood pressure meds and a beer to wash it all away! )<br />PS - Forgive the length of this post and please understand the caps/shouting was meant for Ashy and any others that are trying to defend what is in the ring these days IS NOT what is in the rulebooks.Vectormomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04877291527910704957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-11537843685241210242009-08-30T22:12:07.625-04:002009-08-30T22:12:07.625-04:00Hey, they have "gates" in trail! ; )
...Hey, they have "gates" in trail! ; )<br /><br />I had a really nice QH mare. I looked into doing some local circuit stuff. But then I looked at what "Hunter Under Saddle" meant to the AQHA, and it isn't what my former field hunter was doing, that's for sure! Heh.... <br /><br />Really, I'd like to point out again that the nicest dressage horse at the barn where I ride is a foundation-bred, ranch-born, registered Quarter Horse. But because he has been classically trained, he does NOT resemble those pencil-necked things trit-trotting around the Western Pleasure arena.<br /><br />You don't GET any more "stock horse" than his build, but because he has proper muscling and true softness in the bridle, he fools you into thinking that he's an Andalusian or Lusitano cross. He's naturally athletic and would probably have been a good roping or reining horse, but somehow he made it into the hands of a dressage enthusiast. <br /><br />A very good example of the true versatility of the "stock horse." Remember, Western (as opposed to "English") originated in the Middle Ages, and the Spaniards brought it to the New World via Mexico - which used to own California, Texas, Arizona, etc.<br /><br />That's why I posted the Modern Vaquero link earlier. That's MUCH truer to an honest version of Western Pleasure than the freak show you see today.cattypexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589672286463092432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-72204610860586866952009-08-30T21:43:41.631-04:002009-08-30T21:43:41.631-04:00ashy517,
"And WP doesnt just include the 3 g...ashy517,<br /><br />"And WP doesnt just include the 3 gates and no patterns like the author says it does."<br /><br />I didn't know gates were involved in WP. I thought it was gaits.<br /><br />"There is a thing called Horsemanship. In that class we ride our horses in patterns but we do it while equitating"<br /><br />WTF is equitating?<br /><br />"and having our horses go slow."<br /><br />WHY? Why do you want your horses to go slow? Because the judge wants to see it? That's not a valid reason. Give me a real reason why WP is supposed to be slow. I know most pleasure riders I know want their horses to actually go, not be slow.<br /><br />"Yes it is not the stuff dressage horses do but stock horses are not meant to do that type of stuff they arent built for it."<br /><br />That's too bad that you believe that. If you really opened your mind, you would realize that ANY horse can do ANYTHING it is trained to do. Yes, gaited horses CAN do barrels. Yes, draft horses CAN jump. No, a stock horse may not get to upper level dressage, but they CAN learn basic dressage even up to 2nd level or higher. It's exactly that kind of attitude that leads to poor riding, poor training, and poor horsemanship overall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-13414929731512341152009-08-30T12:32:42.968-04:002009-08-30T12:32:42.968-04:00Ashy.... Who's Big Tim, and why are you at his...Ashy.... Who's Big Tim, and why are you at his shows? :P Sorry, but you have enough typos and other errors in your post that I kept hitting little road blocks.<br /><br />"We get the horses hips in, and we do it w/ there heads down. "<br /><br />"Their," not "there." Sorry, it's the English major in me.<br /><br />That's only the FIRST thing wrong with this statement.<br /><br />You strike me as a younger person who's grown up showing AQHA under various trainers who have subscribed to this nonsense because that's where the money is, with little experience outside your own discipline beyond maybe watching the Olympics.<br /><br />So I will try very hard to not pull out my hair (yeah, I know, I split infinitives all over the place) when I re-read what you've posted.<br /><br />The only HALFWAY DECENT moving WP horses I've seen (at Congress, mind you, not just open shows) only make me think "WOW, that horse could be awesome if they'd just get out of his mouth, let his neck come up, and get his hind end under him. Poor horse. Oh God, look at those post legs and tiny feet. No wonder they all get ouchy by the end of the season..... and still win."<br /><br />Sorry, I've seen NO modern top-level AQHA Western Pleasure horse that I'd want for my own. It would take way too much retraining to make him halfway correct, and soundness would probably always be an issue.<br /><br />And when I say "correct," I mean tracking on a straight line, normal response to leg/spur pressure, weight OFF the forehand, moving his body around a nice circle, and some tendency toward true collection.<br /><br />I don't mean to sound bitchy. I'm so sick to death of how poorly these horses are trained. It's not ethical to ruin a good horse like this. Even if it's done without riding long yearlings, tying up their heads in the stalls, draw reins on a curb bit, lunging till half-dead, spur stop "training" till they bleed and scar, blocking their tails, or the dreaded see-sawing of hands (I see that at ALL levels, and it's a testimony to the sweet nature of the American Quarter Horse that they all don't throw up their heads and bloody their riders' noses)... it's still not right. <br /><br />And if you have always been OK with it, I suggest you start with a little reading here:<br />http://www.equinestudies.org/knowledge_base_intro/knowledge_base_intro_choicepage.html<br />Go to some dressage shows, hunter/jumper shows, other breed shows... with an open mind. Pick up the August issue of Practical Horseman for some real dressage advice, NOT the Lynn Palm pretend stuff.<br /><br />I wish you luck, humane fun with your horse, and a journey into true, educated horsemanship, not just "slow and low is the way to go."cattypexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589672286463092432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-83085029202360531442009-08-30T11:58:10.609-04:002009-08-30T11:58:10.609-04:00heyy...
i show the big tim shows. I know all of th...heyy...<br />i show the big tim shows. I know all of those BNT inside this story even the one not mentioned. I can believe and understand why he punched Ty in the face its understandable but in Ty's offence there wasnt much he could do to stop the stallion. Although he should not have accepted the award still. <br />But the author of this story might want to learn a lil bit more abkut WP. If you have a nice horse just like all the BNT horses are the horse do not look crippled at all. Its actually quite amazing that we can get horses to go that slow and look that good. It isnt easy to do it like she says it is . It takes lots of time and hard training. They can take horses lke mine who are 17hh and get them to do WP. And guess what my horse kicks ass at it. OOO and guess what else he DOESNT look crippled. He looks awesome. <br />And WP doesnt just include the 3 gates and no patterns like the author says it does. There is a thing called Horsemanship. In that class we ride our horses in patterns but we do it while equitating and having our horses go slow. Yes it is not the stuff dressage horses do but stock horses are not meant to do that type of stuff they arent built for it. But we do get our horses to move like no other. We do get alot of training skills from dressage riders. We get the horses hips in, and we do it w/ there heads down. <br />OH and spurs and draw reins are not torture if you use them correctly. Which all of the BNT know how to use correctly some just choose to abuse them. But 95% do not abuse their horses. <br />If your gonna talk about WP you might wanna know something about WP.ashy517https://www.blogger.com/profile/05254615704838008887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-45930264559191546762009-08-29T18:07:28.514-04:002009-08-29T18:07:28.514-04:00Oh and the fake tails just crack me up because you...Oh and the fake tails just crack me up because you can tell they are fake.ZRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02678222365810104995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-54932299558721641052009-08-29T18:05:28.563-04:002009-08-29T18:05:28.563-04:00I'm surprised a video of this class hasn't...I'm surprised a video of this class hasn't surfaced yet. Or a picture for that matter. That or I'm not searching for it right. A show this big was sure to have had professional videographers, not to mention fans in the arena with their video cameras and cameras.<br /><br />I also find it interesting that the AQHA is only interested in the altercation that occurred after the class even though all involved in that none wanted to press any charges.ZRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02678222365810104995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-22035299190492819382009-08-29T16:27:55.740-04:002009-08-29T16:27:55.740-04:00Just another reason I turned in my judge's car...Just another reason I turned in my judge's card for one of the associations involved. It was a disgusting incident on part of ALL 4 judges and the stallion, stallion's rider, trainer and worst of all, there are kids watching all of this go on. Copious amounts of vulgar disgust!!!! Does that make sense? At the top of the WP world it does.Vectormomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04877291527910704957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-53598911714566088072009-08-27T10:22:00.224-04:002009-08-27T10:22:00.224-04:00OK..... here is something pretty cool:
http://tiny...OK..... here is something pretty cool:<br />http://tinyurl.com/l9hdpmcattypexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17589672286463092432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-60784137293621331262009-08-26T13:20:30.349-04:002009-08-26T13:20:30.349-04:00Back when the fake tails and crippled shuffle work...Back when the fake tails and crippled shuffle worked it's way into stock breed WP, I am not sure. But the peanut rolling was evident back in the 70's. Someone who has been in the stock breed world, like Tuffy or a few others can probably help out in that.SFTShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14155830531219245152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-75943374103531093972009-08-26T12:31:51.639-04:002009-08-26T12:31:51.639-04:00Question to all.
I'm curious to find out why ...Question to all.<br /><br />I'm curious to find out why fake tails, low heads, and short, navicular-type gaits evolved. I mean, I can clearly trace the evolution of the Big Lick/soring, but I can't find anything about WP horses. Anyone know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5152826429049460534.post-71824544435937223192009-08-26T07:44:58.947-04:002009-08-26T07:44:58.947-04:00BTW that's shouldn't have been hard left t...BTW that's shouldn't have been hard left turns so much as tight left turns.ZRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02678222365810104995noreply@blogger.com